[Xierox]

In what exact situation would you use a grave instead of a acute. You can only use the grave at the end of the word, right? And the ultima can be short or long, right? And there cannot be any interveaning puncuation so why do they not use a grave symbol instead of an acute over the "ti" in "suggnwmh, ti to onoma" but they do use one over the "to" in the same phrase? Also, what makes you decide to use a circumflex instead of an acute. Also,is "~" a circumflex as well as "^"?
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[Mr. Schwandt]

Great question!

ti breaks the accenting rules. It should have a grave, but instead it always has an accute when it is used as an interrogative (in this case, what?)

[Xierox]

Why is the English name "John" refered to as "Iwannhn" and "Iwanna"? Also,why do you not have a proclitic before "Iwannhn" yet you do before "Iwanna"? And why don't you have a smooth breathing sign before "Iwanna"? On the prievious dialogue, the name "John" was refered to as "o Iwannhz" in Greek, why? Why the different proclitic, too?
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[Mr. Schwandt]

1) jIwavnnh, jIwavnnhV, jIwavnna are all the same name with different case endings. We see this in English with "John" (subject or oject case) and "John's" (posessive case). We have different spellings for different uses of the same name. Greek just has more.

2) In Greek we often put a definite article (= the word "the" in English) before names. A few Gree definite articles are proclitic, most are not. jIwavnnhn is preceeded by the article tovn even though it doesn't happen to be a proclitic.

3) Any time you see any form of jIwavnnhV it should have a smooth breather. Otherwise it is a mistake. Let me know if you find any.

4) We have different articles to match the different case forms of nouns. Here is the break-down.

oJ jIwavnnhV
to;n jIwavnnhn

and this one is for vocative uses (when you are calling out to someone)
w\ jIwavnna the w\ is not an article or proclitic. It is the same "o" as in "O brother, where art thou?"

[Xierox]

Thank you for the answers. I have one more question. On the third dialogue on page 39, the name"w Iwanna" has no smooth breathing acent in between the the proclitic and the actual word. But in the eighth dialogue, the same exact name has a smooth breather. Is that a mistake
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[Mr. Schwandt]

Yep.

Thanks for pointing that out. I just made the corrections jIwavnna should always have a smooth breather, even when preceded by w\

[Brandon_Ennis]

I hate to drag up an old thread, but I have a question that is bugging me. My question has to do with breathers and whether or not they change. So do breathers always remain that same no matter what the case or acent may be, or are they more complicated?

Mr. Swandt said that the greek name for John always has a breather, does this go for all words with breathers?

Thanks,
Brandon

[Megan Turner]

I was just looking through this forum and saw your post...

As far as I know, breathers stay the same. The only example that I can think of where you could say that they "change" is when you change principle parts themselves, say, from future active to aorist active.

--maud