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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:38 pm    Post subject: Question on accenting... Reply with quote

I'm still a little confused about the accenting of Greek verbs and nouns (especially when it come to graves & circumflexes.) I've read through the chapter and tried to apply it, but I'm stuck. Any tips/pointers would be appreciated! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Question on accenting... Reply with quote

PhilipL wrote:
I'm still a little confused about the accenting of Greek verbs and nouns (especially when it come to graves & circumflexes.) I've read through the chapter and tried to apply it, but I'm stuck. Any tips/pointers would be appreciated! Smile


If you email me, I'll email you my study notes. lailak@airsurfer.ca (I'm Barbara in class Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grave only ever appears on the ult, and then only when there is another word following.

Circumflex only ever appears on the ult or penult, and then, only when they are long. Furthermore, a circumflex must not be followed by a long vowel: so if the ult is long, then penult may NOT have circumflex.

I think the thing is to write out the rules and practice using them.

If you have Machen's text, that has a little accent paragraph in each chapter which drills home the rules.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a useful rule in Machen p43 where he explains verb accents:

With a verb, look at the ult.
Ult long => accent goes on the antepenult (if there are three syllables) so must be acute.

Ult short => accent goes on penult, so it must be acute if penult is short, or circumflex if penult is long.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you both for your tips, they are much appreciated! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephen, I think's is the other way around...

Ult Long = accent on penult
Ult Short = accent on antepenult

stephenR wrote:
There is a useful rule in Machen p43 where he explains verb accents:

With a verb, look at the ult.
Ult long => accent goes on the antepenult (if there are three syllables) so must be acute.

Ult short => accent goes on penult, so it must be acute if penult is short, or circumflex if penult is long.

Stephen

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry guys, I forgot the reference:

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