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PhilipL New Member

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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject: Question on accenting... |
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I'm still a little confused about the accenting of Greek verbs and nouns (especially when it come to graves & circumflexes.) I've read through the chapter and tried to apply it, but I'm stuck. Any tips/pointers would be appreciated!
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Laila Klaszus Contributing Member

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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Question on accenting... |
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| PhilipL wrote: | I'm still a little confused about the accenting of Greek verbs and nouns (especially when it come to graves & circumflexes.) I've read through the chapter and tried to apply it, but I'm stuck. Any tips/pointers would be appreciated!  |
If you email me, I'll email you my study notes. lailak@airsurfer.ca (I'm Barbara in class
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stephenR Veteran Member


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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Grave only ever appears on the ult, and then only when there is another word following.
Circumflex only ever appears on the ult or penult, and then, only when they are long. Furthermore, a circumflex must not be followed by a long vowel: so if the ult is long, then penult may NOT have circumflex.
I think the thing is to write out the rules and practice using them.
If you have Machen's text, that has a little accent paragraph in each chapter which drills home the rules.
Stephen
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stephenR Veteran Member


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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:39 am Post subject: |
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There is a useful rule in Machen p43 where he explains verb accents:
With a verb, look at the ult.
Ult long => accent goes on the antepenult (if there are three syllables) so must be acute.
Ult short => accent goes on penult, so it must be acute if penult is short, or circumflex if penult is long.
Stephen
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PhilipL New Member

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Thank you both for your tips, they are much appreciated!
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JNorris New Member

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Stephen, I think's is the other way around...
Ult Long = accent on penult
Ult Short = accent on antepenult
| stephenR wrote: | There is a useful rule in Machen p43 where he explains verb accents:
With a verb, look at the ult.
Ult long => accent goes on the antepenult (if there are three syllables) so must be acute.
Ult short => accent goes on penult, so it must be acute if penult is short, or circumflex if penult is long.
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stephenR Veteran Member


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Aaaaaargh!
You're right!
I repent in dust and ashes; I abhor myself.
eja;n eijvpwmen oJ;ti aJmartivan ouj;k ejvcomen, eJautou;V planw:men kai; hJ ajlhvqeia oujk ejvstin ejn hJmi:n
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stephenR Veteran Member


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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry guys, I forgot the reference:
=Iwannou A A-h
Stephen
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