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RuthEmilyZ Veteran Member


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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2002 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, I see what you mean. I do have trouble with the acc. and nom. But I thought that if you wanted to say 'in' (en), then the word following it would need to be dative.
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Mr. Schwandt AGORA Administrator


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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2002 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| You are right. Presposition are very finiky. The only put up with a particular case following them. "en" demands the dative, always. The preposition has its own meaning and overrides the meaning of the dative case.
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RuthEmilyZ Veteran Member


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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2002 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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This is my sentence, sorry about getting it out so late
oi kakoiv avnqrwpoi bavllousi livqouV eiV touvV oivkon tw:n apovstolou.
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Mr. Schwandt AGORA Administrator


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Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Good! only one mistake
tou: ajnqrwvpou
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RuthEmilyZ Veteran Member


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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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oi kakoiv avnqropoi bavllousi livqon eiV touvV oikouvV tou: apostovlou.
Machen chapter 11
1.) o dou:loV levgen touvtouV touvV logouvV katav autw:n.
3.) o kuvroiV h:n en tw:/ eirw/: autw:/.
5.) apoqnhvskete en tauvthn thvn hmeran daiv thvn basileivan qeouv.
7.) h prfhthvV apostevlle touvV autouvV douvloV eiV tovn mikrovn oikovn.
9.) paralambavnon tou:ton tovn avrton parav tw:n dwvrwn tou: apovstolou.
11.) en tauvth/ wra/ h:men en th/ errhmw/ metav tou: kuvriou.
13.) h:V kalovn, allav h:men amartwlouvV.
15.) oi uioiv tw:n profhtw:n sunavgon tauvta eiV tovn eirovn.
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Mr. Schwandt AGORA Administrator


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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Impressive!!
This is VERY good.
Here are some helps,
#1 perfect
#3 "his" must be in the genitive since it shows possession
#5 Your verb needs an augment (e) to show past time. Since this would begins with a preposition (apo) the augment will go in front of qnhskete then you will have ajpo + eqnhskete. Since prepositions lose their final vowel before word that begin with vowels it will contact together like this ajpeqnhskete
gotta go - more later
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RuthEmilyZ Veteran Member


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Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 10:40 am Post subject: |
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3.) o kuvrioV en tw:/ ierw/ autou:.
5.) apeqnhvskete en tauvthn tvhn hmevran diav thvn basileivan qeouv.
7.) h profhthvV apestevlle touvV autouvV eiV tovn mikrovn oikovn.
9.) parelambavnon tou:ton tovn avrton parav tw:n dwvrwn tou: kuvriou.
15.) oi uioiv tw:n profhtw:n sunh:gon tau:ta eiV tovn eirovn.
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Mr. Schwandt AGORA Administrator


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Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 10:55 am Post subject: |
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fantastic work!
#7 You are missing doulouV
What happened to #11 and #13?
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RuthEmilyZ Veteran Member


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Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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#7 was a typo on my part
7.) h profhthvV apestevlle touvV autouvV douvlouV eiV tovn mikrovn oikovn.
must have missed the mistake the first time around...
11.) en ekei:nh/ th/: wrav/ h:men en th/: errhmw/ metav tou: kuvriou.
is anything wrong with 13?
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Mr. Schwandt AGORA Administrator


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Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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I assume you mean #15
It looked perfect except for a typo iejron
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RuthEmilyZ Veteran Member


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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Actually, I meant #13 of Chapter 11.
13.) h:V kalovn, allav h:men amartwlouvV.
Did that one come out ok?
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David I. Veteran Member


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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Can I post remarks?
As far as I can remember you can never start a "phrase" with ajlla;. That goes after the (first?) word... At least I know it doesn't go first. That wasn't very specific was it?
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RuthEmilyZ Veteran Member


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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not quite sure, but I think it might be only dev that is postpositive.
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RuthEmilyZ Veteran Member


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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Machen 13, II
1.) h ekklhsiva pevmyei dou:louV moi.
3.) ou:toi oi lovgoi gravyw en biblivw/.
5.) nu:n ouvpw didavskei me, en de; ekei:nh/ th:/ wra/; kai; didavxei me kai; gnwvsetai me.
7.) tovte oi tufloi; proseuvxontai tw:/ kuvriw/, alla; kakoi; avnqrwpoi ou proseuvxontai.
9.) proseuvxomeqa upe;r tw:n autou: tevknwn en th/: ekklhsiva/.
11.) tovte edidaskovmeqa upo; tw:n apovstolwn, en de; ekei:nh/ th:/ hmevra/ kai; didavxomen.
13.) ou katabaivneiV th:/ qavlassa/, alla; diwvxeiV tauvtaV meta; tw:n tevknwn autw:n eiV thvn evrhmon.
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RuthEmilyZ Veteran Member


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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2002 10:35 am Post subject: |
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oops, I forgot #15!
15.) tau:ta eisi; kakav, alla; evxete agaqa; en ekei:nh/ hmevra/.
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