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Machen Lesson 18 (Present Participles)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, way to go Emilia!

I know for a fact that number 2 is right, 'cause the Study Guide says so. For some reason it took me a long time to figure that one out. I think I had forgotten about the matching cases thing....

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thnx, it taking me forever to figure these out but I'll get them. (I hope.) Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 3:36 pm    Post subject: here's my Reply with quote

1. The men persecuted by the ruler come to God.
2. He who receives you also receives the Lord.
3. We say these things concerning the One who raises the dead to those going into the house.
4. The ones coming out of the church say this to us.
5. The churches persecuted by the ruler believe in the Lord.
6. Those believing on the Lord are saved.
7. God knows the things written in the Book of Life.
8. We went out to those leading the children.
9. We saw the gift taken by the child.
10. This is the ruler who receives me into his house.
11. Good men believing in the Lord are also saved by Him.

Hehe, I agree Emilia. Translating Greek into English is harder for me than translating English into Greek!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well.... I probably should get going on this...
(Let's start at the very beginning, a very good place to start. When we read we begin with A...... Ok you can shut me up now =)
1. While we are being persecuted by the ruler, we pray to God.
2. The one recieving you recieves also the Lord.
3. Things speak to the ones going into the house about the one who is raising up the dead. (I don't know about this one...)
4. While we are going out of the churches he speaks things to us.
5. The churches who are being persecuted by the rulers believe in the Lord.
6. The ones believing in the Lord are being saved.
7. God knows the things written in the book of life.
8. We go out to them while they are leading the children.
The rest comes on Friday.... (Ahhhh this doesn't take as long as translating into Greek. Praise the Lord!)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL!! Laughing Yeah, you might want to, David and thnx for agreeing with me Jedi. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and here is the rest of mine...

11.) The ones who believe on the Lord and are being saved by him are holy.
12.) This is the Spirit which saves us.
13.) They were in the house which was being destroyed by the ruler.
14.) They were in the house while it was being destroyed by the ruler.
15.) This is the church who believes in the Lord.
16.) While they were being taught by the Lord you (all) were going in the way that was going up into the desert. (???? HELP!)
17.) The gospel which was saving the sinners was being preached by them.
18.) This is the gospel which is being preached on earth and saving the men.
19.) I came to him while he was baptizing the disciples.
20.) We saw him while he was still in the temple.

Hurray, I'm done! Any comments about #16, however, would be deeply appreciated. It just doesn't look right.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm...That's one heck of a sentence. Smile Lemme see. It's not "they" because the sentence focuses on "you". You might try "Being taught by the Lord" and "which goes up into the desert". Even if you use those changes in that sentence, the sentence itself still doesn't make much sense. (To me at least.)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

9. We saw them who are taking gifts from the children.
10. This is the ruler who is receiving me into his house.
11. The good men who are believing are into the Lord and who are being saved by him. (Ok this one confused me....)
12. This thing is the spirit who is saving us.
13. They are in the house that is being destroyed by him who is ruling.
14. They are in the house while it is being destroyed by him who is ruling.
15. This is the church that is believing on the Lord.
16. While they are teaching on behalf of the Lord you something in the way that is going up into the desert. (What in the world is eporeuesqe???)
Only four to go....


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, let's see...

poreuvomai means 'I go' (dep.)

the only thing that I could find to match eporeuesqe was "second aorist middle indicative". (Machen, pg.90)

Not sure if I'm right, but that's what I used in my sentence

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Genius......
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 10:59 pm    Post subject: Chapter 18, Part One Reply with quote

1. We who are being persecuted by the ruler got to the Lord.
2. They who are receiving are also receiving the Lord.
3. ?
4. They who are coming out of the church say these things to us.
5. The churches that are being persecuted by the ruler are faithful to the Lord.
6. The faithful are being saved by the Lord.
7. He knows the God who was writing in the book of life.
8. ?*Something*? to him who is leading the children.
9. We shall see the gifts that are being received by the children.
10. This is the ruler who is receiving me in his house.
11. The holy man who is being faithful to the Lord is also being saved by Him.
12. This is the Spirit which is saving us.
13-14. He who was being loosed by the ruler is in the house.
15. The church is being faithful in the Lord.
16. Those who were being taught by the Lord in the way were going up into the desert.
17. Under him the gospel was being preached which saves the sinners.
18. It is the gospel which was being proclaimed in the world that also saves the men.
19. I came to him who baptizes the disciples.
20. We were yet seeing him who is in the house.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 12:25 pm    Post subject: My...dying...breath Reply with quote

Look not upon the following as a portent evil, but as a last effort from a poor, helpless man. Spare me from thy wrath!

1. The men persecuted by the ruler come to God.
2. He who receives you also receives the Lord.
3. We say these things concerning the One who raises the dead to those going into the house.
4. The ones coming out of the church say this to us.
5. The churches persecuted by the ruler believe in the Lord.
6. Those believing on the Lord are saved.
7. God knows the things written in the Book of Life.
8. We went out to those leading the children.
9. We saw the gift taken by the child.
10. This is the ruler who receives me into his house.
11. Good men believing in the Lord are also saved by Him.
12. This is the spirit which saves us.
13. They were in the house destroyed by the ruler.
14. They were in the house destroyed by the ruler.
I notice that 13 and 14 are the same... is that right?
15. It is a church which believes in the Lord.
16. Those who are taught by the Lord to go in the way go up into the desert.
17. His gospel of life was preached to the sinners.
18. This is the gospel which is preached in the world and which saves the men.
19. I went to Him baptized by the disciples.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

16. While they are being taught by the Lord you went for yourselves in the way that is going up into the desert. (This still makes no sense...)
17. He was preached by him, the gospel who was saving the sinners.
18. This is the gospel that is preaching in the world and is saving the men.
19. I went to him while he is baptizing the disciples.
20. Still being in the temple, we saw him.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Being persecuted by the ruler we pray to God.
2. Thee who receives for himself will receive the lord.
3. We see them going into the house concerning about the raising of the dead.
4. It is going out of the church seeing these things for us.
5. The women of the church persecuted by the rulers, believe in the Lord.
6. The ones who believe in the Lord are saved.
7. He knows God the writer in the Bible of life.
8. We will go to them the ones who love the children.
9. We see them taking the gifts from the children.
10. This is the Ruler the one who receives me into the house of him.
11. Holy are the ones who believe in the Lord and they are saved by him.
12. This is the Spirit that saves us.
13. They were in the house being destroyed by the ruler.
14. They were in the house being loosed by the ruler.
15. She is a church that believes in the Lord.
16. Teaching for themselves by the Lord ya’ll will go in the way she is going, up into the desert.
17. He proclaims by Him who preaches the gospel that is saving the sinners.
18. This is the one who preaches the gospel proclaiming for itself in the world and saving the men.
19. I come to him baptizing the disciples.
20. Still in the temple we see them.

Here's my homework,sorry it took me so long to post it. Tatiana Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 3:58 pm    Post subject: MR. SCHWANDT! URGENT! Reply with quote

Mr. Schwandt,
I need to leave a half an hour early today, and once again, my mic is not working, although Dad's been working on it. Will the homework assignment be posted?
Thank you,
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