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Machen's Lessons 4-18
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2002 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...And here is the rest
9. Proseuxovmeqa ujpe;r tw:n aujtw:n tevknwn ejn th/; ejkklhsiva/.
11. Tovte edidaskovmeqa uJp= tw:n ajpostovlwn, ejn ajll th/: hJmevra/ ejkeivnh/ kai; ejsovmeqa didavxomen.
13. Ouj kate[rxh th/: qavlassa/, diwvxeiV ajll= ta;V guna;V tauvtaV met= tw:n tevknwn aujtw:n eijV th;n e[rhmon.
15. Tau:ta kaka, e{xete ajll= kala; ejn th/; hJmevrh/ ejkeivnh./
Was there anything wrong with my first ones?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2002 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great work (check out my comments to other students - and please feel free to add your own comments)

3) you have a conflicting verb and nominative

7) the last phrase has a singular nominative but plural verb

13) look up the second principle part of ercomai for the correct future spelling.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2003 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3. Ou|touV tou;V lovgouV gravyw ejn biblivw/.
7. Tovte oiJ tufloi: proseuvxontai tw/: Kurivw/, oiJ ajll= kakoi: ajnqrwvpoi ouj proseuvxontai.
13. Ouj kateleuvsh th/: qavlassa/, diwvxeiV ajll= ta;V guna;V tauvtaV met= tw:n tevknwn aujtw:n eijV th;n e[rhmon.
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Chapter 15...
1. Ouj ei\domen aujtovn, ga;r ou[pw h\men tou;V maqhta;V aujtou:.
3. Ouj hjkouvate me, ajll= h\lqete tw:n maqhtw:n mou.
5. OiJ aJmartwloi: ejbaivnon eijV tou;V oi\kouV aujtw:n, ajll= oiJ ajpostovloi ei\don to;n kuvrion.
7. OiJ ajdelqoi: sou: h/\ron dw:ra toi:V tevknoiV, ajll= oiJ ajpostovloi e[labon ta; tevkna aujtoi:V.

Yes... I realize I haven't posted chap 14 yet.... I'll see if I can get there=)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chapter 15 Part 2......
9. Ejgenevsqe ejkklhsivan tou; qeou:, ga;r ejpisteuvsate ejpi; to;n uiJo;n aujtou:.
11. OJ pisto;V didavskaloV ei\pen o{ti oJ kuvrioV ajgaqovV.
13. H[kousan ta; tevkna kai; h\lqon aujtoi:V.
15. OiJ maqhtai; levgontai o{ti oiJ ajpostovloi ei\don to;n kuvrion kai; pare[labon tou:ton aujtw/:.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) whenever you have a "to be" verb (i.e. we were) it doesn't take an accusative. Instead it takes another nominative.

3) Disciples should be dative instead of genitive

7) You have "to the children" instead of "from the children" and "to them" instead of "from them"

9) see the rule I mentioned in #1, and use eis instead of ejpi with this verb

11) Impressive!

13) Good

15) Your first verb is passive when it should be active and your finish with "to him" instead of "from him"

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Ouj ei\domen aujtovn, ga;r ou[pw h\men oiJ maqhtai; aujtou:.
3. Ouj hjkouvate me, ajll= h\lqete toi:V maqhtoi:V mou.
7. OiJ ajdelqoi: sou: h/\ron dw:ra para; tw:n tevknwn, ajll= oiJ ajpostovloi e[labon ta; tevkna par= aujtw:n.
9. Ejgenevsqe ejkklhsivan tou; qeou:, ga;r ejpisteuvsate eijV to;n uiJo;n aujtou:.
15. OiJ maqhtai; levgousi o{ti oiJ ajpostovloi ei\don to;n kuvrion kai; pare[labon tou:ton par= aujtw:n.

Sorry about the "to" and "from" thing. Mentally I was thinking that the dative either meant to of from instead of to or for.
In #9 I can't find any of the "to be" verbs. Maybe I'm just missing something....
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first word in #9 is a "to be" verb.

ginomai means either "to be" or "to become"
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2003 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

9. Ejgenevsqe ejkklhsiva tou; qeou:, ga;r ejpisteuvsate eijV to;n uiJo;n aujtou:.
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1. Qelhvmati tou: Qeou: ejpistteuvsamen ejpi; tou: ojnovmou tou: Kurivou.
3. Gnwsovmeqa qelhvmata tou: Qeou: eijV to;n aijw:na.
5. Ejn th/: sarki; hJmw:n mevnomen ejn tw/: touvtw aijw:ni, ajlla= dia; tou: peu:maV tou: Qeou: e[comen th;n ajgaqh:n ejlpida.
7. Ejn tai:V ejkei:naiV hJmevraiV ejblevyate tou;V a[rcontaV.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chap 18 Even #'s
2. Didaskovmenoi ejn tw/: iJerw/: ejdiwkovmeqa ujpo; tou: a[rcontoV.
4. OiJ khrussovntwn tau:ta edexavnto, eJautouV kai;, to; tau:ta khrussovmena ujpo; aujtw:n.
6. Didavskonta ejti; ejn tw/: iJerw eblevyamen aujtovn.
8. HJ elpi;V to; blevpon ejsti;n ouj ejlpivda.
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