Machen Lesson 19

180 · Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 9:37 am Post subject: Machen Lesson 19

1. Having taken it from he who believes in the Lord, we went into the desert Exclamation

3. We saw them, both having remained in the house and having gone out of it Exclamation

5. We said this thing concerning Him who saved us Exclamation

More coming later... Exclamation

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Erin Boyington · Contributing Member Joined: 23 Sep 2002 Posts: 45

So the homework for posting is Chapter 19, odds of part one?
Erin Boyington

David I. · Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 3:02 pm Post subject:

And every other odd from part II.
-David I.

180 · Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 7:51 am Post subject: Some more

I need some help with the word prosenegkontes
Anyone know what it means?
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RuthEmilyZ · Veteran Member Joined: 10 Sep 2002 Posts: 91

180:
I think prosenegkovnteV is the aorist participle of prosfevrw (Machen pg. 113)

Machen 19, II

1.) oi mh; idovnteV to;n apovstolon ginovskousi auton ou.

5.) prosh:vlqomen toi:V baivnousi en th/: ovdw/.

9.) labovnteV tau:ta dw:ra apo; tw:n enegkovntwn auta;, sunevlqon eiV th:v ekklhsivan.

13.) o tuvfloV o labwvn tou:ton hn meta; tw:n diwkovntwn autovn.

180 · Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:20 am Post subject: Well here's part 1

1. Having taken it from he who believes in the Lord, we went into the desert.
3. We saw them, both having remained in the house and having gone out of it.
5. We said this thing concerning Him who saved us.
7. Ouch, this one's hard. Need help.
9. I believed in Him who had said these things.
11. I did not see the Lord since did not believe in Him.
13. Having heard what was spoken by the Lord, they believed in Him.
15. The children who receive these things from the one who hears them see Him while still in the house.
17. The angels, having fallen out of heaven, were evil.
19. These things were answered by those who brought the children to him.
Confused

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David I. · Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 1:04 pm Post subject:

Part 1.....
1. Having taken things from the ones who believe in the Lord we went out into the desert.
3. We saw them both while they were staying in the house and after they went out of it.
5. We said these things concerning the one having saved you.
7. Since they have brought to the Lord him who is being persecuted by the evil one who is ruling, you all went up into another place.
9. You (singular) believed in him after he had said these things.
11. The one not having seen the Lord believed not in him.
13. Them having heard the thing being said by the Lord believed in him.
15. The children, who having recieved these things from the ones having heard of the Lord, spoke him yet being in the house. (Could this be what it means? Preached him while there where yet in the house? Like, "We preach Jesus." If that made any sense.)
17. The angels who having fallen out of heaven were evil. (Or possibly: The angels after they had fallen out of heaven were evil?)
19. These things he answered after they brought the children to him.
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RuthEmilyZ · Veteran Member Joined: 10 Sep 2002 Posts: 91

Machen 19, I

1.) When we had received these things from the ones who believe on the Lord, we went out into the desert.

3.) We saw them both while they were remaining in the house and when they had gone out of it.

5.) We said these things concerning the One who had saved us.

7.) When you had brought to the Lord the one who is being persecuted by the ruler of evil, you went away into another place.

9.) You believed on Him when He had said these things.

11.) He who had not seen the Lord did not believe on Him.

13.) When they heard that which is being said by the Lord, they believed on Him.

15.) The children who had received these things from the ones who had heard of the Lord saw that he was still in the house.

17.) The angels who had ?________? out of heaven were evil.

19.) He answered these things to the ones who had brought the children to him.

What is pesovnteV? I kno it is an attributive aorist participle, but that's as far as I can get. I can't find it in the glossary.

RE Rolling Eyes

David I. · Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2003 5:22 pm Post subject:

pesovnteV is the aorist participle of pviptw. Remember that when you are looking at the participle the augment is removed. (It is in the glossary under e[peson.)
-David I.

RuthEmilyZ · Veteran Member Joined: 10 Sep 2002 Posts: 91

thanks!

17.) The angels who had fallen out of heaven were evil.

Xierox · Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 5:40 pm Post subject: Chpt. 19

I.
1)
Having taken these things from the the believer on the lord we went into the desert.
3)
We saw them and having remained in the house, and having gone out of it.
5)
These things we say concerning the thing that had saved us
7)This one was pretty tough and I kinda had to guess in some places how it went. Smile

I am probably wrong but here's what I got: Having prayed to the lord he was sent into a place by the evil ruler.
Doing them as this posts...
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Xierox · Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 9:52 am Post subject: The rest of Chpt 19

9)
I believed in him who said these things. I think it's "him who said" because the participle "having said" matches "him". This IS right, correct?
11)
The men not having seen the Lord, do not believe in him.

15)

The children receving these things from the ones who have heard of the lord having seen him while still in the house.
17)
The messengers, having fallen out of heaven they were evil
19)
These things I answered the [unknown], to/for him, the child.
If someone knows that this word is would you let me know?
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Xierox · Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 9:53 am Post subject: Now for part 2...

1)
on idwn ou o apostoloV eginwsxmen
5)
ercomen proV oi poreuonteV eiV on odon
9)
decomenoV apo o ferousi rauta, auta ercopon sunagw eiV to ekklesia
13)
o tufloV decosan autoV anqropon derou
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Erin Boyington · Contributing Member Joined: 23 Sep 2002 Posts: 45

1. We who received these things from the faithful in the Lord were coming

out of the desert.

3. We were seeing them and those who remained in the house and those

who went out from him.

5. We were sying these things about those who saved us.

7. You who are worshipping to the Lord were being persecuted by the

ruler who is evil, you were going away into another place.

9. You believed in him who had seen these things.

11. He who did not see the Lord was not believing in Him.

13. Having heard the thing being heard by the Lord, they believed in Him.

15. The children who are taking these things from those who hear the Lord

see Him still being in the house.

17. They were the angels who had sent evil out of heaven.

19? These things he was answered . . . [?] . . . him (dat.) the children.

1. mhv ijdovnteV tovn ajpovstolon ouv e[gnon auJtoVn

5. h#lqan provV eiJsercovntaV eJn th:V oJdouv

9. labovnteV tau:ta dw:ra uJpov ejnegkavntwn sunevrcontai eijV thvn ejkklhsivan

13. oJ tuflovV labwvn tou:ton h#n metav diwxavntwn aujtovn

Xierox · Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 2:17 pm Post subject: Hurrah!

Hurrah! I'm finally a veran member! Very Happy

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